The White Rose Movement: Propaganda, Politics & Power

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DISCUSSION Introduction: Sophie Scholl and the Holocaust (https://www.reddit.com/r/Frisson/comments/1lkz83a/the_execution_of_sophie_scholl_film_adaptation/?solution=868fea0b33705053868fea0b33705053&js_challenge=1&jsc_token=7afd7253fec22262ff1c52b1703fe9ec18a34e62110d4e200b39b122fbc3ef9c&jsc_orig_r=) 1\. Video One: The History of the White Rose Movement The “White Rose” anti-Nazi student resistance group – Hitler’s Most Wanted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7389CubqgI) Leaflet II of the White Rose Movement (Text) (https://www.white-rose-studies.org/pages/leaflet-2) “We don’t want to write about the Jewish Question in this leaflet, we don’t want to compose a defending speech – no, we just want to mention a fact as a short example, the fact that since the conquest of Poland three hundred thousand Jews have been murdered in this country in the most bestial way. Here we see the most terrifying crime against human dignity, a crime that is unparalleled in the entire history of mankind. The Jews, too, are human beings – no matter what position one takes on the Jewish Question – and against human beings a crime of this dimension has been perpetrated. Someone might say that the Jews deserve their fate. This assertion would be a monstrous presumption” 1\. What do you think about this kind of “resistance” movement? 2\. What do you think would happen today if this kind of resistance movement happened? 3\. At the time\, the white rose movement knew that there had been 300\,000 Jews murdered \- how do you think they would have responded if they knew the number was much higher? 2\. Video Two: Downfall Film Clip \- the end of the Third Reich (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH7MqZkiJ7s&list=PLtLwhIssFo_5wXLNdjmq_qcgFTq6fwScO&index=3)Propaganda “propaganda’s task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly” ( Adolph Hitler) 1. Why did Hitler’s Third Reich Fail? 2. Why was Hitler so enraged at the failure? 3. What lessons do we learn about marketing/propaganda to make something seem more robust than it is? 4. What current movements do we see winning a propaganda war but losing ground culturally? 3\. Video 3: Hitler’s Secretary https://www.imdb.com/video/embed/vi1002685465/ “He was criminal and I should have seen it” 1. What reasons did Hitler’s secretary give for not realising that Hitler’s cause was murderous? 2. How do you think it would feel to be so young and support this regime? 3. Which cultural movements do you think our culture will regret in a few years time? After party: Grace Tame - Believe the Women or Globalise the Intifada Grace Tame has been active in the pro Palestinian Movement and recorded inciting a crowd to “globalise the intifada”, later she denied allegations that there was sexual assault at the Nova Festival invasion on Oct 7, calling these claims “propaganda”. Recently she has issued a statement saying that she believes women were assaulted there, but qualified it with a reference to Human Rights Watch that rapes did not happen “en masse”. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EGFjbrENV/ The Dinah Project - Proof of Sexual assault on October 7 (https://thedinahproject.org/the-dinah-project/) 1. Why didn’t Grace Tame believe Hamas sexually assaulted women at the Nova Festival? 2. Why did Grace apologise recently? 3. Do you think Grace believes the women or does she need to qualify her statement for political reasons? 4. Why didn’t Grace Tame reference The Dinah Project, an Israeli report of all the atrocities - especially sexual assaults?